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Mar 29, 2009 21:07:10 GMT -5
Post by purplestuf on Mar 29, 2009 21:07:10 GMT -5
We're failing as a guild, seems like we're just...'another' guild. Pretty lame considering we could down os10-3d but we choose not to even attempt it anymore : /
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Raiding
Mar 30, 2009 0:04:00 GMT -5
Post by sookoo on Mar 30, 2009 0:04:00 GMT -5
Although it would appear as us failing as a guild, that is hardly the case. I will admit, this week was a bad one... but if you really want to compare us to other guilds, every guild has bad weeks. Lets not forget that, although 3D 25 seems easy to us now (aside from this week), its not like every other guild on the server has done it, its still "hard", still takes coordination. In regards to 10 man 3D OS, theres a few things I should say about this. 1) As much as i hate to be selective (and its not to hurt feelings), we cant just walk in with whoevers online, walk in and do it. Having said that, its also important to remember that, theres no set "this combonation is needed". what works for another guild wont neccessarily work for us, and vice versa. Although it seems like setting up a 10 man is easy, its not really... 2) lost my train of thought i'll edit in as needed! 3) 4) Nightfall? 5) dont bring this down on the guild, you can bring this down on me. this week has been kinda crazy for me too, and having beer spilt on me/throwing someones shoe into a river just doesnt put me in the raiding mood, but im trying
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nobu
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Raiding
Apr 1, 2009 13:32:20 GMT -5
Post by nobu on Apr 1, 2009 13:32:20 GMT -5
Divine has turned to an anarchist guild, led by PURPLESTUF!!!! omfg
haha, know what's funny. I feel this is the truth. Our officers, as of late, have been either absent from the game or totally silent while they're on. I mean, when G chat becomes Purp's private verbal toilet, someone has to step in and save the day.
I don't know what I'm expecting you to say. Maybe just pop in and say, hey, lets get a few scheduled ten man naxx guild runs going. Or, no Nobu, we're not running ten man 3D tonight, why dont you stfu already.
Or comment on what we hope to do in Ulduar. Are we gonna have one kick ass ten man grp and let the rest of the guild fend for themselves, or are we gonna start splitting up some of the more geared folks with some of the scrubs.
Hey, don't get me wrong. Running a guild seems like a lot of work and I'm truely appreciative of all the time you guys have put in. I've just been logging on lately and wondering, "is this a progressive raiding guild, or a casual guild for casual players?"
Both are fine, depending on what people are looking for......
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Raiding
Apr 1, 2009 14:08:58 GMT -5
Post by purplestuf on Apr 1, 2009 14:08:58 GMT -5
I mean, when G chat becomes Purp's private verbal toilet, someone has to step in and save the day. Or comment on what we hope to do in Ulduar. Are we gonna have one kick ass ten man grp and let the rest of the guild fend for themselves, or are we gonna start splitting up some of the more geared folks with some of the scrubs. Hey, don't get me wrong. Running a guild seems like a lot of work and I'm truely appreciative of all the time you guys have put in. I've just been logging on lately and wondering, " is this a progressive raiding guild, or a casual guild for casual players?" private verbal toilet? fuckkkkk you. : ) but for ulduar i think it'd be how it is now, we have a lot of geared members but then we have others that arent always there and arent geared. We need more of a core 25man : ( i wish we had like say 30-40 solid geared members so we can definitely take on Ulduar25 ^_^. but um about progession/casual? we need officers to help us get dates set up : (. we need officers to lead us and organize us 'core folk' and let us know when to get on to raid.
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Post by Forf on Apr 4, 2009 3:47:33 GMT -5
Get on Wednesdays and Thursdays 10mins before 6 server ready to pull.
This is by no means official, but I see us as a twenty-five man guild. We schedule the 25-mans. If people want to do 10mans, hard-mode or not, they have as much freedom to get 9 other people together and start something as any officer does. Personally, I'd rather run 10man's with friends, maybe gear up a few new ones, play alts, etc, than be all hardcore in 10mans.... I use the 25's to show off.
To me, the 10's are subjective. I know Nobu, Purple and others really want to do the 10man stuff. They can round up similar minded people for that, I know we have them in the guild... like I said, I see us as a 25man raiding guild. To me, the 10s are secondary, and are thrown together by whoever wants to throw em together. I take pride in that we raid 25s two (sometimes one) night(s) a week, and have the other nights open for options. In-game and out. I feel it helps me burn out less, not wanting to raid 7 nights a week and instead go bat-shit all-out (i.e. steadyx3 explosive for a few hours) a couple nights. Redundant paragraph is redundant.
Its 4:42a.m. and I'm rambling...
TL:DR: To me, 10s and what you want from them is subjective, I like raiding a couple nights a week, and anyone can organize 10 mans and setup 10man teams, not just O's. And I like octagons.
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nobu
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Raiding
Apr 6, 2009 10:22:09 GMT -5
Post by nobu on Apr 6, 2009 10:22:09 GMT -5
Ten man content cleared! Nobu's insanity has subsided. I'll shut up and be a good little gnome from now on. Maybe we wanna start thinking about Ulduar super achievements???
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Raiding
Apr 8, 2009 15:47:16 GMT -5
Post by treefiday on Apr 8, 2009 15:47:16 GMT -5
[Achievement Unlocked! Grammar, Spelling and Capitalization] But im confused..... you said that 10 mans were "subjective"? Subjectivity, a subject's perspective, particularly feelings, beliefs, and desires wikipedia'd that cause im a massive faggot. I think Forf means that 10 mans are a "seat of the pants" kind of deal. OHLOLOLOLOL 10 GUISE ARE ONLINE WHO WANTS TO DUM SUM 3 DRAK!?!?!??!?!
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Raiding
Apr 8, 2009 15:48:44 GMT -5
Post by treefiday on Apr 8, 2009 15:48:44 GMT -5
Ten man content cleared! Nobu's insanity has subsided. I'll shut up and be a good little gnome from now on. Maybe we wanna start thinking about Ulduar super achievements??? Nobu i never want to go on a skiing trip with you. "GUYS WE JUST DID THE BUNNY HILL ONCE THAT MEANS WE SHOULD GO ONTO THE BLACK HILL OF DEATH AMIRITE?" You are such an eager beaver and thats a lot coming from a Canadian, i know my beavers.
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Raiding
Apr 8, 2009 23:29:01 GMT -5
Post by Forf on Apr 8, 2009 23:29:01 GMT -5
[Achievement Unlocked! Grammar, Spelling and Capitalization] But im confused..... you said that 10 mans were "subjective"? Subjectivity, a subject's perspective, particularly feelings, beliefs, and desires wikipedia'd that cause im a massive faggot. I think Forf means that 10 mans are a "seat of the pants" kind of deal. OHLOLOLOLOL 10 GUISE ARE ONLINE WHO WANTS TO DUM SUM 3 DRAK!?!?!??!?! Nah, I think they are subjective in what you want out of them and how you want to do them. Like how I would gladly do 1D 10man on my druid over 3D 10man on Forf.
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Raiding
Apr 9, 2009 15:17:42 GMT -5
Post by blarg on Apr 9, 2009 15:17:42 GMT -5
Imo 10 mans, and 10 man achievements aren't progression, 25 mans are, not because they are a lot harder, but because it takes a larger group, its obviously more difficult to get 25 good people on than it is 10. When we used to 'raid' ubrs with 10 people we didn't consider it raiding, it was to get some gear before the real raiding began.
Perhaps the way the game has changed merits some of the attitudes people seem to have but frankly this ever present desire to get the purple airplane over the red airplane seems to be a bit over done to me. Its good that some people got the purple airplane, hurray for them, but considering that we started a bit late in the raiding game and we had some bumps along the way, you cant expect that all of our regular 20-25 people are going to have every achievement required for every airplane available, I certainly don't, and i raid as much as most anyone does.
Maybe 3.1 comes next tuesday, maybe it doesn't, maybe you get the purple airplane or not, i don't see this as all that important. In fact, why do YOU think YOU should get in that 8 man naxx or 3d 10man group? We have a number of good people who haven't gotten the achievements, for whatever reason, the fact is its tough to get everyone into the right raids at the right time when some people still need gear from that instance that you only want to run because you want some achievment.
I had most of a group quit on me after we lost undying in the first wing of 10 man naxx for that reason, and I wasn't even in the group that tried the first 10 3d, truckin was, is he less deserving than me or i than him? of course not.
All that said, the officers have not pushed overly hard to get some of this stuff done, as i said personally idc much about it, though i have tried numerous times to get undying done for example (got scrrreewweeeed), and i'm game to do most anything even if it doesn't matter to me. So, hopefully we can get to a quick start in 3.1 and maybe get some of the achievements done sooner so fewer people miss out on the rewards.
But all of the complaining about not getting nightfall or undying or whatever isn't going to help that happen, so please don't think your purposefully being left out of something because it just isn't the case. There will likely be some kind of achievement run tonite, i'll gladly sit out for someone who wants to get more of them done.
My main point is, that only a very few of us have the 10 man achievements, so that means the vast majority of the guild hasn't gotten it done and a lot of us are equally deserving, i still don't have undying for example, have i not run naxx enough for this, whens the last time i died on a boss fight in 10 naxx? Id bet that alot of the complaints are coming from people that already do have undying, but being close to Nightfall doesn't make you anymore deserving of it, some of us just haven't been as lucky or less unlucky than you..
Also, there have been a boat load of complaints about this issue, so please don't feel like i'm singling anyone out, I wish we could all get every achievement or BIS 2h axe for example (got scrreeewwweed) but that just isn't going to happen.
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Raiding
Apr 10, 2009 2:33:15 GMT -5
Post by Forf on Apr 10, 2009 2:33:15 GMT -5
Nice post Blargy.
To go against my own above stuff - doing that speed 3d 10 actually looks fun. Nuke him before he nukes us? My kind of raiding.... Id gladly go to a run trying that out.
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